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Saving Soaps: A Cable Alternative
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With the extremely upsetting news of One Life To Lives's move to the empty All My Children studio canceled ,our fight to save the soaps may have to take a very serious turn straight to the cable networks. Pleading and threatening the three major networks is becoming a less feasible opportunity.
The cable stations seem to have a better knowledge of producing and paying for their shows. They cancel less shows and bring quality programming day after day and night after night. I do not count SoapNet, a station that is run by ABC and have reneged on their promises from the first..They find it hard to show the soaps they have now, bumping them for their own reality nonsense. None of which the true soap fan is interested in. We would much rather be watching Guiding Light or Another World or Santa Barbara or Port Charles etc. etc. etc.
What we are going to need is a station dedicated to Soap Fans run by someonewho believes in the Soap genre and the greatest group of hard working talented actors in the business. A friend on my Facebook page told me her husband suggested contacting Oprah Winfrey since she will have her own network next year. I am not sure Oprah has ever mentioned or had any soap stars on her show,but it is probably worth trying.
Please lets get ideas coming in and reaching out to all of the soap fans we know to build the numbers we are going to need to get people and stations interested.
Lets get going friends and save OLTL & As The World Turns and bring back Guiding Light as well as keeping our other beloved soaps on the air for many years to come.
Visist the Soap Saver's Inc page for info and join the community to help save daytime!
Message from TAT/SW: Here is the direct link to the contact page for OWN (Oprah Winfrey Network): Contact Own. A note before contacting them. Do not write to them as a beloved fan. Write with the intent to sell the show to them as one would to the advertisers. And yet infuse your love for the show. Which means be professional about it and less emotional. As they won't care about the storylines, characters, or how long it has been on air. Nor will they care about how many generations of family who watched any soap. What they will care about is a gaurenteed audience and an ability to target advertisers with the demographic that Oprah carries. Essentially all fans writing need to provide how daytime can continue thrive as a money making venture on their network. And remember soaps cost $50 million a year to produce, so you also need to suggest that cutting cost would help it thrive. So write to over come the business/financial odds without sounding like a desperate fan. Trust us it works better.
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Soap Savers Inc/missnanse
02:56 PM on February 21, 2010
Barbara says...
Well I like Fish and his guy.They have class and good sense.I am happier to see them than I am those two little women that insist on getting some other female's husband or love interest . I was almost happy when what her name was locked out in the snow. How is it that women with no class or work ethics turn the heads of "" intelegent men of the world" Rex not included in that club .I almost liked Skylor until he started to lie then that was gone. He is as low as the two little nit wit twits.
I too love Fish and Kyle and think they show what two people in love should be like. as for Stacy and Kim unfortunately men's heads have been turned by "women" like them through time As for Schyler yes he has disappointed me too, but I kind of hope it leads to a Gigi/Rex reunion. I know Rex made a big mistake but he is a good man. it is soaps after all.
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missnanse
09:23 PM on February 06, 2010
Barbara says...
Oprah has done several shows with soap stars. In fact she has had the entire cast of soaps on her show. However Because I am sooo sick of Jack and Carly and Jamse Steinback I am not in favor of trying to save this show.. But GL??? I would be very happy if someone put it back on. Soap Net 's Erica can go g et a life elsewhere. I wish they would continue to be Soaps only. It is the reason I tuned in to the station.Now I wait for everything else is gone before turning to the station.
I agree that Erica does not belong on Soapnet that they're original premise was soaps all the time and wish we could convince a cable station to do just that. I am trying to convince one to take GL and put it back on the air. I am fighting to keep ATWT. i think it is a quality show that deserves to be saved, but everyone has a right to their opinion and we all have to be able to watch our favorites. C'mon over to my FB page Soap Savers Inc.and join the fight.
Sorry Chad I clicked the wrong block. How are you today?
Well I like Fish and his guy.They have class and good sense.I am happier to see them than I am those two little women that insist on getting some other female's husband or love interest . I was almost happy when what her name was locked out in the snow. How is it that women with no class or work ethics turn the heads of "" intelegent men of the world" Rex not included in that club .I almost liked Skylor until he started to lie then that was gone. He is as low as the two little nit wit twits.
Chad Hutton says...
What have you got against gays & gay sex dear?
Oprah has done several shows with soap stars. In fact she has had the entire cast of soaps on her show. However Because I am sooo sick of Jack and Carly and Jamse Steinback I am not in favor of trying to save this show.. But GL??? I would be very happy if someone put it back on. Soap Net 's Erica can go g et a life elsewhere. I wish they would continue to be Soaps only. It is the reason I tuned in to the station.Now I wait for everything else is gone before turning to the station.
Gladys M. Spring says...
The soaps have a very large audience of all ages and have since its very beginning. That will not change. Please find a way to keep this medium on network tv or cable tv.Networks have made serious errors in cancelling shows that were favorites and replaced them with shows that did not work -- cancelling them eventually. I hope you will listen to the many fans of the soap operas. While I have watched As The World Turns for over 40 years, I do not want to see any of the soaps cancelled. Thank you for listening.
Thanks for your comment Gladys and you are right the networks do cancel good shows and replace them with shows that are so much worse and they cancel them also. It happens in daytime and also night time and is ridiculous. I just know that we have to fight to save ATWT and every other soap and not let TPTB ruin the genre. Thanks,Nanci
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Gladys M. Spring
05:25 PM on January 31, 2010
The soaps have a very large audience of all ages and have since its very beginning. That will not change. Please find a way to keep this medium on network tv or cable tv.Networks have made serious errors in cancelling shows that were favorites and replaced them with shows that did not work -- cancelling them eventually. I hope you will listen to the many fans of the soap operas. While I have watched As The World Turns for over 40 years, I do not want to see any of the soaps cancelled. Thank you for listening.
TimeAfterTime/SoapWorld says...
I remember watching a soap called Generation, back on NBC and it didn't last more than 2 years due to it being put opposite a better performing serial. I also remember some people making the same arguments in regards to not wanting to have African Americans thrown in their faces. I also remember the same hate speeches ended the relationship between characters Neil and Victoria on The Young and The Restless. Later I remember watch Days of Our Lives and making a statement but how great an actress Renee Jones who plays Lexie and that she should be front and center. Someone there commented to me that she (a black woman) was always meant to be in the background.
As an African American myself I also know that the majority audience is African American women like my wife. Yet I also saw how the wedding between Bianca and Reese brought All My Children it's highest ratings in years and most of those fans of the couple were heterosexual as well. Most fans in daytime don't care about sexuality and don't mind integration as long as they get to continue to watch the soaps they know and love. And the stories are written well.
You are right about fans not caring about sexuality or integration . We want well written soaps with a diversity of characters. The characters of Neil and Victoria were before I watched Y&R, but Neil is now involved with Ashley and they are great together. One would hope integration would not even be a factor anymore. Lexie and Abe Carver are both fantastic characters and though we see Lexie we rarely see Abe who is as smart a cop as I ever saw and makes a great mayor if he were given the airtime.
Now as for Bianca and Reese, Kyle and Fish and Luke and Noah they are loving couples, good and decent people who are or were an integral part of their soaps They add to the story lines and to the viewership.
I am enjoying my soaps and all of the characters and I will fight to keep them all on the air .
tgtsing says...
LOOK THE ONLY WAY TO SAVE OUR SOAPS IS TO GET RID OF BRIAN FRON, BOB GUZA WHO EVER IS WRITING FOR AMC. OLTL.. ALL THE VIOLENCE, SEX, LANGUAGE AND THE GAY SCENE. PEOPLE ARE NOT INTERESTED IN SEEING THE SAME SEXES ON THE SOAPS. THE VIOLENCE AND SAME SEXES AS WELL AS FIRING OUR VETERANS FROM THE SOAPS WHAT KILLEDT HEM .UNTIL WE DO WHAT WAS DONE TO THE BANKS , THE AUTOMOBILE INDUSTRY AND HOUSING MARKET THE SOAPS WILL CONTINUE TO FAIL. THEY NEED TO GET RID OF CBS ,ABC AND NBC PRESIDETS. ESPECIALLY BRIAN FRON. HE JUST RUIN ABC DAYTIME TV WITH HIS PITIFUL SELF. THEY NEED TO GOT RID OF. PEOPLE LIKE THE WRITERS AND PRESIDENT WHO ARE ONLY INT TO SEX AND VIOLENCE. I AM NOT SAYING GAY PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO WORK. I DON'T WANT THEM SHARING MOMENTS THAT ONLY A WOMAN AND A MAN SHOULD. I DON'T WANT SOAP SHOWING OUR CHILDREN THE ONLY WAY TO SOLVE A PROBLEM THE GUN IS YOUR ANSWER. THE NEW GENRATION OF AMERICANS SEEM TO BE MAKING IT THEIR MENTION TO DESTROY AMERICA. I WOULD LOVE TO WRITE FOR BB. STIILL CBS SOAPS ARE WAY BETTER THEN ABC. ABC HAS BECOME SUCH A DISTASTEFUL STATION TO WATCH. ABC EXCUTIVES ARE REAL IN DENIAL IF THEY THINK THY ARE DOING A GOOD JOB WITH THAT STATION. LET ME BE THE SECOND TO SAY I WOULD GIVE YOU A ZERO FOR YOUR WORK ON ABC.WE MUST GET A PETITION UP TO GET RID OF THE THTP.ESPECIALLY BRIAN FRON WHO DON'T KNOW A THING ABOUT SOAPS. IF HE WASN'T GAY HE WOULD HAVE BEEN FIRED.THE MAN TRULY HAVE SOMTHING AGAINST WOMEN. GET RID OF BRIAN FRON
I remember watching a soap called Generation, back on NBC and it didn't last more than 2 years due to it being put opposite a better performing serial. I also remember some people making the same arguments in regards to not wanting to have African Americans thrown in their faces. I also remember the same hate speeches ended the relationship between characters Neil and Victoria on The Young and The Restless. Later I remember watch Days of Our Lives and making a statement but how great an actress Renee Jones who plays Lexie and that she should be front and center. Someone there commented to me that she (a black woman) was always meant to be in the background.
As an African American myself I also know that the majority audience is African American women like my wife. Yet I also saw how the wedding between Bianca and Reese brought All My Children it's highest ratings in years and most of those fans of the couple were heterosexual as well. Most fans in daytime don't care about sexuality and don't mind integration as long as they get to continue to watch the soaps they know and love. And the stories are written well.
Everyone go to the contact lists on my page, scroll to the bottom and pick a network and write to them and ask them to save the wait for the new Neilsen ratings to come out before they cancel any shows. Remember just because Your soap is not threatened does not mean it will be safe a year from now. Lets fight to save all soaps.
Jewell I write only what I am told and the word out was that Brian Frons had canceled the move I was very happy to report my mistake. As soon I was told by someone who met with Frons and Franco I reported it. I am sorry for the 1st article but believe me OLTL is losing viewers and they are being watched and could be canceled next. That is why i am working so hard to keep the genre Our soaps alive. I ask for everyone's help so please any ideas or information will be used if possible. Oprah is a possibility. Keep reading and commenting. Thanks, Nanci
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Jewell
05:41 PM on January 30, 2010
I like this site but I have seen miss information more then once, Kassie just posted on her Facebook they are moving to AMC old studio the week of February. 8th
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Jewell
05:39 PM on January 30, 2010
TimeAfterTime/SoapWorld says...
Brian Frons said in early December that the series was not moving indefinitely and that was the end of that.
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Jewell
05:37 PM on January 30, 2010
Why do the rumors keep flying OLTL is not getting canceled. Carolyn Hinsey from SOD said it is not getting canceled.
If AMC should ever be in the position Oprah should help, it is her favorite and she use to be on it.
If AMC should ever be in the position Oprah should help, it is her favorite and she use to be on it.
Guiding_Light says...
I do not condone blasting the Neilsen ratings, but I do highly recommend pointing out that the average soap opera viewer is no longer sitting at home washing clothes. We are professionals who come home and watch on our own time, long after the show has aired. Most of us are not counted with those current ratings.
We also have more buying power, so are more attractive to advertisers, however. It's a win win!
I am surprised at your take on the soap opera demographics. I have been to a lot of soap opera get togethers recently (GL Fan luncheon and So Long Springfield) and did not find that to be true. How is that measured? Cheers!
The advertising Industry commissioned a study which back in 2009 explained that the largest demographic of soap viewers were in their own words "middle aged poorer African American women". African American women are also least likely to attend fan events and are least likely to write into the shows to voice their concerns. This is based mostly off of the history of race and oppression in the U.S. where AA's have grown to believe that things would not change. So you see we have big daytime disparity. On this site I posted a chart that showed the viewing habits by race of daytime television. It was done in comparison to sports. Check out the most popular section on the site bar and see Soap Viewership by Numbers.
I do not condone blasting the Neilsen ratings, but I do highly recommend pointing out that the average soap opera viewer is no longer sitting at home washing clothes. We are professionals who come home and watch on our own time, long after the show has aired. Most of us are not counted with those current ratings.
We also have more buying power, so are more attractive to advertisers, however. It's a win win!
I am surprised at your take on the soap opera demographics. I have been to a lot of soap opera get togethers recently (GL Fan luncheon and So Long Springfield) and did not find that to be true. How is that measured? Cheers!
We also have more buying power, so are more attractive to advertisers, however. It's a win win!
I am surprised at your take on the soap opera demographics. I have been to a lot of soap opera get togethers recently (GL Fan luncheon and So Long Springfield) and did not find that to be true. How is that measured? Cheers!
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